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  Hey Governing Body, if you're not too busy.....

  by The Fall Guy in

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  .....can you clarify one of your doctrines for me?.

  re chap.

  27 p. 178 par.

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  .....can you clarify one of your doctrines for me?

  You say that the "woman" in Revelation 12 is God's heavenly organization - comprising all of the angels:

  re chap. 27 p. 178 par. 6 - "What a fitting symbol of Jehovah’s magnificent heavenly organization!" pe chap. 13 p. 117 par. 13 - “The woman,” therefore, represents God’s organization of faithful heavenly creatures. it-2 p. 187 - It would follow that the “woman” is God’s “wife,” the “Jerusalem above,”

  But Revelation 12:6 says "..the woman fled into the wilderness, (away from the dragon!) where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days."

  So let me get this straight: you're saying that myriads of God's angels did an impersonation of Usain Bolt and ran off in the other direction when confronted by lil' ol' Satan???

  Sheesh! Looks like 2019 might be a good time for a "new light" on this one.
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  Capitalizing names

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a random thought here but does anyone else notice than when the name "elder" or "circuit overseer" appears in the organization's magazines and books they're always lower case even though they're proper nouns and should be elder and circuit overseer... but branch committee member, governing body helper, governing body member, they get to be capitalized.

  another subtle indication of how the governing body and other high-ranking elites see themselves, i think.

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  Watchtower February 2017, pars. 12,13 pp. 26,27

  "WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?"

  12 The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the WatchTower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments [aka rejections/reversals] in our Scriptural understanding [aka interpretation] since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” (Matt. 24:45) What evidence is there that the Governing Body is filling that role? (None whatsoever!) Let us consider the same three factors that directed the governing body in the first century.

  13 Evidence of holy spirit.* The holy spirit has helped the (present) Governing Body to grasp Scriptural truths not previously understood. (by Russell, by Rutherford, by Knorr, or by Franz) For example, reflect on the list of beliefs clarified (reversed) that was referred to in the preceding paragraph. Surely, no human deserves credit for discovering and explaining these “deep things of God the org! The Governing Body echoes the apostle Paul, who wrote: “These things we also speak, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit.” (1 Cor. 2:13) After centuries of apostasy and spiritual darkness, can anything other than holy spirit explain the rapid increase in spiritual understanding since 1919?" (Money, maybe?)
  

  * w62 12/15 p. 762 We Need Jehovah’s Organization - "The care of God’s organization today is not in the hands of men who are inspired by God. They can make mistakes as any imperfect man can."
  

  So exactly what/who is inspiring them, and why would anyone trust them?
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  2 BOE's--Atlantis!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one of these boes is ( old news ), the london letter on the annual totals, and the other concerns pioneering in 2019. just for your records.. .

  https://transfer.pcloud.com/download.html?code=5zowyx7zcrnigmamezkzadcbzehe7xedeley1uityg5jwpjr0dwyx.

  atlantis!.

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  Many thanks Atlantis.

  Have a good 2019.
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  April 2019 Watchtower article 'Uphold the TRUTH about death'

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears this study article has been written because the organization is still having trouble teaching african jws that they are not to follow their traditional customs when someone dies and not to believe in spirits.it has been speculated for some time that it is african jws that have attributed to the increase in 'anointed' partakers.interestingly, no-where in this article does it even mention their two class system and the anointed having a heavenly hope.

  it is amazing that they title the article as upholding the truth about death and fail to mention their two hope doctrine.the following are some quotes -.

  satan, “the father of the lie,” has deceived people since the start of human history.

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  Par 3, p. 2 - If our circumstances limit the amount of time we can spend in Jehovah’s service, we should not feel discouraged. Jesus knew that not every one of us would be able to produce the same amount of Kingdom fruitage.

  So Kingdom fruitage is defined as time - time spent recruiting for a money-making cult? Ahhh, trolley-time!
  

  And here was I thinking it was something totally different: Galatians 5:22, 23 - "the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control."
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  2019 Nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize...

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. humour

  ...for being out-standing in his field!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkshld2sj_w.

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  ...for being out-standing in his field!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKshld2SJ_w
  
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  UK migrant "crisis"

  by The Fall Guy in

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  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46725343.

  "writing on twitter on sunday, labour leader jeremy corbyn said: "we have a duty to reach out the hand of humanity, support and friendship to people who are in danger and seeking a place of safety.".

  yes jeremy, i know exactly what you mean: i was in france on holiday a few years ago, and the lack of humanity & friendship from those frenchies really made me feel that i was in danger.

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  If a "refugee" has fled to a safe country (Greece, France, Italy, etc.) and then tries to carry on to another country, they are to all intents & purposes personally redefining their status to that of an economic migrant, and should be treated as such.

  However, the EU has a wonderful "open-door" law which states that "asylum seekers have no legal duty to claim asylum in the first EU state they reach."

  https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-migration-and-asylum-european-union

  It's no wonder that economic migrants from Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq are journeying through numerous safe countries in order to reach the English channel.

  The threat of automatic deportation back to their country of origin would be a good incentive for them to settle in the country which initially grants them the "asylum" which they allegedly need.

  Greece, Italy, & Malta would then try and force the EU to review its refugee policies.
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  UK migrant "crisis"

  by The Fall Guy in

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  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46725343.

  "writing on twitter on sunday, labour leader jeremy corbyn said: "we have a duty to reach out the hand of humanity, support and friendship to people who are in danger and seeking a place of safety.".

  yes jeremy, i know exactly what you mean: i was in france on holiday a few years ago, and the lack of humanity & friendship from those frenchies really made me feel that i was in danger.

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  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46725343
  

  "Writing on Twitter on Sunday, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said: "We have a duty to reach out the hand of humanity, support and friendship to people who are in danger and seeking a place of safety."

  Yes Jeremy, I know exactly what you mean: I was in France on holiday a few years ago, and the lack of humanity & friendship from those Frenchies really made me feel that I was in danger. Boy, was I glad to get back across the channel to a genuine place of safety!

  All the other European countries these refugees have travelled through to reach the English channel must be just as bad as France!
  
  
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  Is A Major Restructuring At Warwick In The Works Due To Years Of Governing Body Ignorance & Delusion?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the possible financial ruin to which faithful & discreet slave/governing body has brought wt corporation, due to all the underhanded/illegal/thoughtless policies as g.o.d(guardians of doctrine) seems to be a very real possibility, as court cases mount against the wt and it's different corporations.. montana just gave a very clear $$$$30million+ shout out to wt, about it's fucked up policies, which lay at the feet of those in charge.

  it seems that some type of no confidence should be expressed and a complete over haul should be happening.

  they can not keep this information secret any more and they are totally delusional ass holes if they think they can talk their way out of this.. therefore i think we shall see some desperate measures to keep this fraudulent organization financially stable and a removal from power those responsible for the mess..

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  The org will continue making sacrifices in the new year - and for the foreseeable future.

  Sacrificing Bethelites & Branch offices, sacrificing Kingdom Halls, and sacrificing mi££ion$ of donations to paedophile victims and lawyers.

  2019 is not going to bring any "good news" TM for the cult. It's become a house of cards.
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  Active JW's - Some Bible direction for you in 2019......

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ....if you seriously sin.. w85 12/1 p. 7 - "the intercession of a human......at any stage of “justification” has no foundation in the bible....the way in which a human can be granted a righteous standing before god.

  the org & elders denounce what jesus said at matthew 18:15-17 - that a sin should dealt with by the repentant sinner and witness alone.. ask yourself why you are compelled to obey the anti-scriptural "confessional" process which the wtbts has invented, through which you must seek the forgiveness of three elders.

  which scripture tells you that they can decide if you're repentant enough, and why would you want to collaborate in such a dehumanizing and vicious ritual?.

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  ....if you seriously sin.

  w85 12/1 p. 7 - "The intercession of a human......at any stage of “justification” has no foundation in the Bible....the way in which a human can be granted a righteous standing before God."
  

  The org & elders denounce what Jesus said at Matthew 18:15-17 - that a sin should dealt with by the repentant sinner and witness alone.

  Ask yourself why you are compelled to obey the anti-scriptural "confessional" process which the WTBTS has invented, through which you must seek the forgiveness of three elders.

  Which scripture tells you that they can decide if you're repentant enough, and why would you want to collaborate in such a dehumanizing and vicious ritual?

  Have a peaceful and meditative 2019 - and be willing to see ever more clearly.
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  First century Christians got it badly wrong...

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .......so thank goodness mr. rutherford was "inspired" to sort the problem!.

  w77 7/1 p. 401 par.

  4 - as witnesses of jesus, believers in time came to be called “christians.” (not jehovah's witnesses?

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  The Fall Guy

  Change of avatar for a change of year. Free as a bird.